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tcavity4566
04-11-2022, 12:51 PM
Just wondering how penalties are simulated? My Cornerback was given a neutral zone penalty. I have coached football for almost 20 years and have watched it my entire life. I dont ever remember seeing one of those called on a cornerback. The penalty also made me realize that we must be playing press coverage. Nevertheless, my team is towards the top in penalty yardage and that is so very frustrating. I have really loved my expierence so far just trying to get a handle on how to prepare.

Dbillblood
04-11-2022, 07:55 PM
Yeah not sure how its figured. I have what i think is solid rosters on both teams yet my Os suck. I mean my Olines arent the greatest by any means, but i have

Kyler Murray, Stefon Diggs, AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, Mark Andrews, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs, and theyre crap

Joe Burrow, Darren Waller, Deebo, Allen Robinson, Hunter Renfrow, and Joe Mixon. Also crap lmao

And not half bad backups either. Shouldnt need all pro Olines for these rosters to make something happen. Dont get it

tcavity4566
04-12-2022, 12:47 PM
I feel you coach...That is a great roster on paper...

Kinda of the subject but I think it would be nice if the players were given a rating. An overall rating and then position spefic trait ratings....

such as...

OL.... Run Blocking, Pass Blocking,
DL.... Pass Rush, Tackling
DB.... Speed, Agility, Zone coverage, Man...

RB.... Agility , Speed, Break Tackles...

I believe this would help with the overall game play.

Kingswood
04-12-2022, 02:56 PM
Yeah not sure how its figured. I have what i think is solid rosters on both teams yet my Os suck. I mean my Olines arent the greatest by any means, but i have

Kyler Murray, Stefon Diggs, AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, Mark Andrews, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs, and theyre crap

Joe Burrow, Darren Waller, Deebo, Allen Robinson, Hunter Renfrow, and Joe Mixon. Also crap lmao

And not half bad backups either. Shouldnt need all pro Olines for these rosters to make something happen. Dont get it

Maybe it's your gameplan? At least you're 4-0 with Kyler Murray.

Kingswood
04-12-2022, 03:00 PM
Kinda of the subject but I think it would be nice if the players were given a rating. An overall rating and then position specific trait ratings.

I feel like ratings take away from the point. I think you're supposed to be able to decipher these things as a coach/gm. Adding ratings would make it feel like Madden

Chilly
04-12-2022, 05:42 PM
I agree King, but how do you rate Offensive Linemen? What stats are you using? and in the game, how do you tell if your offensive linemen are doing well or not? Nothing in the Play by Play or Box Score can single out if your lineman is doing well or getting beat on every snap.

Kingswood
04-12-2022, 08:43 PM
Yeah that's the downside of it. We're working with a lot less since we don't have detailed defensive stats. Sacks should tell you where the pressure is coming from but that's only if you know where they lined up. They mentioned they'll have more details on the next version they roll out but that's going to take a minute.

Aardvark71
04-12-2022, 09:00 PM
I can't decipher inviduals but a team where my OL is weak, the running backs (esp. the starter) only plods for 3.2 yards a carry after four games, and the team gives up a number of sacks compared to my other team. Lots of stuff goes into it but when the base is weak, the team is weak and it happens every week.

Kevin
04-12-2022, 11:00 PM
I can't decipher inviduals but a team where my OL is weak, the running backs (esp. the starter) only plods for 3.2 yards a carry after four games, and the team gives up a number of sacks compared to my other team. Lots of stuff goes into it but when the base is weak, the team is weak and it happens every week.

Yeah, I had a team last year that lost all of its starting and backup tackles for about 3-4 week period and it was gruesome. I recommend that no one else ever do this.

cdcox
04-13-2022, 02:42 AM
Penalty rates are based on NFL stats. Defensive backs aren't offside very often, but it happens.

We will never have ratings for players for a couple of reasons. 1) A player's performance is represented by complex formulas with many parameters. For example, for running backs there are like 20 parameters that define their performance. There isn't an easy way to boil it down to a single rating. 2) Player selection is mostly done before the NFL season finishes. I don't calculate the performance parameters until after the season in over. 3) The game is intended to test your actual ability to build an NFL team based on your knowledge of players and ability to predict how a player will perform into the future, similar to how an NFL GM would have to project these things.

The valid point is that for some positions, it is really hard to know how your players are contributing to success or failure. As mentioned we want to provide more of that information on the next re-write of the simulator, to be completed at a time to be determined.

Cmanning191474
04-13-2022, 04:00 PM
If your o line isn't good, it doesn't matter who you got back there throwing it or running it. Ask Joe Burrows about that, got sacked 30 sometimes. upfront on both sides of the ball is where the game is won. i have a good o line and old ass Matt Ryan as QB. Im 4-0 and he has 10 TDS to 1 int

Dbillblood
04-13-2022, 10:02 PM
Ive been adjusting my gameplan as i go. Minor tweaks hoping it will hit a sweet spot. Nothing i can do about passes for 0 yards though. They happen way o often. Apparently ive adjusted into a screen pass O somehow lol. Now if only the guys didnt suck at them

Dbillblood
04-13-2022, 10:12 PM
I mean my line shouldnt be garbage. I have

Jonah Williams LT, Roger Saffold LG, Conner McGovern(Jets) C, Trey Smith RG, Cornelius Lucas who had a solid year in pass pro the last couple seasons. Shouldn't be garbage by any means. This is Burrows team

Other line maybe a little shaky

Samual Cosmi LT(tried Duane Brown here as well), Conner Williams LG, Brian Allen C, Conner McGovern(Dallas) and also tried Brown here now RG, Cornelius Lucas RT again. Guess i need to bench Lucas on both teams and see it that helps. Not sure Matt Pryor is an upgrade but can try Duane Brown at LT and slide Cosmi to RT maybe

Chargers
04-17-2022, 03:34 AM
LOL Last year Quentin Nelson lead my team in offensive holding calls.... All - Pro player leading that category.... interesting

Kingswood
04-17-2022, 07:03 PM
How was the rest of your line? He might've been forced to hold more if he was overcompensating. Just guessing

Cmanning191474
04-18-2022, 07:15 PM
You can find pass and rush grades for lineman on espn

tcavity4566
04-22-2022, 01:43 PM
Thank you for responding to my statements. I am really enjoying the season so far!!!